29. Gisell, Catalina and our Spanish Story

[00:00:00] Toward the end of 2023, during the coffee hour it's a church that my wife and I attend, I met Gisell Kiwis. Gisell works at the Stanford University School of Medicine. She is the director of Faculty Development and Diversity.

[00:00:21] It's quite an amazing story of how the Holy Spirit brought us together, but I will save that for another day. Gisell asked me if creating a Spanish version of the podcast was possible. She grew up in a Spanish speaking family and has relatives.

[00:00:41] She wants to share the podcast with, but in Spanish. Converting a spoken podcast to Spanish is more challenging than simply translating a text file. However, I'm excited to announce we've done it.

[00:00:59] And in a moment we'll play the introduction to the Spanish version in this special bilingual English Spanish episode. The Spanish podcast has no English at all. However, in today's episode for our English audience we've done an English Spanish mashup, which I will play in a second.

[00:01:24] But first, since launching these podcasts, I've received messages from people who have said it saved them from suicide. I've also heard from Christian mothers of queer kids who found it brought them peace of mind.

[00:01:42] Would you help Gisell and me spread the word about this podcast? There are several ways that you can help. Firstly, even though Spanish speakers who might be interested, please email or text them a link to this episode or to the Spanish podcast itself.

[00:02:00] Title, la vibilia, i.e., la homosexualidad. Secondly, please leave us a comment or a review on the podcasting service you use.

[00:02:13] And thirdly, if you know any Spanish language social media influencers or have contacts in the Spanish press or media who might be interested in covering these podcasts or interviewing us, please let us know. You can contact us directly through the website, the Bible and homosexuality.

[00:02:37] Just click contact in the upper right-hand corner to send us a message in English or Spanish. Gisell and I have wrestled with our perfectionist tendency. The voices and the translations aren't flawless, but we believe they're good enough to potentially save some young people from suicidal thoughts.

[00:03:04] AI-generated voices sound more natural when there are multiple speakers. So, for this Spanish version, we've collaborated with an AI-generated colleague named Catalina Maestro. Personally, I find the Spanish version somewhat better because it feels like a dialogue.

[00:03:28] And I will use the same technique in some of the upcoming English episodes. You'll get a sense of this dialogue format in the bilingual introduction I'm about to play.

[00:03:41] Please let us know your thoughts. My voice in English is my real voice, but all the other voices that you will hear in both English and Spanish are AI-generated. Here is the bilingual introduction to la bibliotea y la homosexuality. Condena la bibliotea todas las formas de homosexualidad.

[00:04:10] Does the Bible condemn same-sex attraction? Prohíbe la bibliotea que las minorías sexuales se cassen ordenen y enseñan. Does the Bible ban sexual minorities from marriage, ordination and teaching? ¿Qué dice realmente la bibliotea y qué dijo Jesús? What does the Bible actually say?

[00:04:31] And what did Jesus say? Prepare te para sorprenderte. Prepare to be surprised. Bienvenidos a este podcast donde celebramos la diversidad de la creación de Dios. Welcome to this podcast, where we celebrate the diversity of God's creation. Este podcast es positivo y afirmativo.

[00:04:53] This podcast is positive and affirming. Creo que Dios creó a todas las personas, eterios sexuales y homos sexuales a su imagen. Las minorías sexuales son algunas de las más grandes creaciones de Dios. I believe that God created all people, straight and gay in his image.

[00:05:30] Sexual minorities are some of God's greatest creations. Y lo sabemos por que la biblió nos lo dice. And we know this because the Bible tells us, Saludos soy el tin xorwin. Greetings, I'm El tin xorwin. And I'm Catalina Maestra. And I'm Catalina Maestra.

[00:05:52] As algunos años, a Judea enseñar un gran estudio bíblico y escuché algunos pastores y maestros de la bibliores circos asterribles sobre los hombres homosexuales y otras minorías sexuales. Some years ago, I helped teach a large Bible study.

[00:06:09] And I heard some pastures and Bible teachers say some terrible things about homosexual men and other sexual minorities. New golly y que los jóvenes cristianos de las minorías sexuales estaban suicirando en números alarmamente altos. Then I read the young Christian sexual minorities

[00:06:31] were committing suicide in alarmingly high numbers. Y usted as umio que los jóvenes de las minorías sexuales cristianas estaban suicidando porque estaban escuchando las mismas cosas terribles que se decían sobre los homosexuales. Y usted as assumed that young Christian sexual minorities were committing suicide

[00:06:51] because they were hearing the same terrible things set about homosexual individuals. They sang their tendon Sunday school and they deeply loved Jesus. Y luego les dijeron cosas terribles sobre los homosexuales y algunos de ellos se suicidaron. And then they were told terrible things about homosexual individuals

[00:07:34] and some of them committed suicide. Sí, creo que sí. Yes, I think so. Pero Jesús nunca dijo nada negativo acerca de ninguna minoría sexual. Jesús fue bastante inclusivo. But Jesus never said anything negative about any sexual minorities. Jesus was quite inclusive.

[00:07:56] Sí, estaba muy a favor de la diversidad. Era muy afirmativo. La inclusión es de lo que se trataba su ministerio. Yes, he was very much pro-diversity. He was very affirming. Inclusivity is what his ministry was all about. Luego, cuando que jubilaste,

[00:08:17] tú sigas tenimaron a desarrollar estos podcasts. Then, when you retired, your daughters encouraged you to develop these podcasts. Yes, to set the record straight about what Jesus actually said. And what the original authors of Scripture were actually saying that God created all human beings, both straight and get

[00:08:59] in God's own image and that God intentionally created you the way you are. Es es un mensachipo de loso. That's a powerful message. Todo está en la Vibria, y esusta a muchos cristianos conservadores. It's all in the Bible, and it scares many conservative Christians.

[00:09:23] In esta serie, revisaremos los versículos de la Vibria utilizados incorrectamente para atacar a las minorías sexuales por parte de las iglesias conservadoras. In this series, we will review the Bible verses used incorrectly to attack sexual minorities by conservative churches.

[00:09:45] And we will review what the intent of the original authors was. It was not to attack adult, consensual relationships or sexual minorities. We also review the many perspectives of the modern, the perspectives of the minorías sexual minorities that the majority of the iglesias ignore.

[00:10:15] We also review the many powerful affirming verses, the processual minority verses that must church as ignore. Then, in the posterior episodes, we diversify a little and talk about other important things for the young Christians. At the largo of the series, we dissectional the versículos of the Vibria

[00:10:41] and the religiously-concerbadoras. This fruit of this series, and if you know someone who is in Christiano and is fighting sexual orientation, please share this podcast with them. One young listener of the English version of this podcast, wrote me saying... Gracias.

[00:11:26] To support guests, me help me stop thinking about suicide. Mes alvastela rida. Muchas gracias. You saved my life. Thank you so much. Increasely. Extraordinary. And a mother shared with me. Me pregunta cuántos gaze no buscarán el suicidío porque se siente nada si aceptados.

[00:11:57] Gracias desde el fondo de mi corazón. I wonder how many gaze will not seek suicide, because they feel loved and accepted. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. I am sorry for your heart. God is exactly like you. Remember this, hold it close to your heart.

[00:12:46] God loves you exactly as you are. And mine. Our computer generated. Remember, Dios te creo, el detegió en el bien tré de tu madre, exactamente como eres, con un propósito, porque quería alguien con tus dones y talentos precisamente.

[00:13:21] Remember, God created you. He net you together in your mother's womb exactly the way you are for a purpose because he wanted someone with precisely your gifts and talents. Dios te ama no eres un error. God loves you. You are not a mistake.

[00:13:40] Fuiste creado por Dios por una razón. You were created by God for a reason. Mantente salvo, mantente fuerte y que Dios los bendiga. Este es out in Sherwin. Stay safe, stay strong. God bless. This is Elin Sherwin. Y esta es Catalina Maestra.

[00:14:02] Sigue nuestro podcast para que puedas ver futuro se pisodios. Estamos muy contentos de que estes con nosotros hoy. And this is Catalina Maestra. Please follow our podcast so you get future episodes. We are so very glad you are with us today.